From syouens at talisman-energy.com Sun Jul 5 23:21:20 2009 From: syouens at talisman-energy.com (Youens, Simon) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:21:20 +0700 Subject: [GF] New Member Message-ID: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3523@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> Hello All, I'm a new member here, having just started with Talisman in Vietnam, who use Geoframe. I've been using Kingdom for the past eight years, so I've been active on the 3DPAK list - I see one name I recognize from that list - Hi Keith. I haven't used IESX since 2001 and that was a pre-Geoframe system, and I'm finding the learning curve steep. So if I post newbie questions, please bear with me. I'm using Geoframe 4.4 on an HP xw9400 workstation, running Red Hat Linux. Regards, Simon ______________________ Simon Youens Senior Geophysicist Talisman Vietnam Limited -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.stevens.com/pipermail/gf/attachments/20090706/e7d22864/attachment.html From syouens at talisman-energy.com Sun Jul 5 23:42:39 2009 From: syouens at talisman-energy.com (Youens, Simon) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:42:39 +0700 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? Message-ID: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> I've just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty members, but I can see only one post! Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list is very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to questions. So here's a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. I've just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If anyone would like a copy, let me know. Regards, Simon ______________________ Simon Youens Senior Geophysicist Talisman Vietnam Limited -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.stevens.com/pipermail/gf/attachments/20090706/11ee1e6a/attachment.html From Dave at Stevens.com Mon Jul 6 10:31:15 2009 From: Dave at Stevens.com (J. D. Stevens) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:31:15 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> Message-ID: <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com> Simon, Indeed there has been almost no activity on gf at stevens.com. The culture seems to be very different. Perhaps your participation may spark a bit of activity. Dave Youens, Simon wrote: > I?ve just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty members, > but I can see only one post! > > > > Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list is > very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it > is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to > questions. > > > > So here?s a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. I?ve > just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order > to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom > 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If > anyone would like a copy, let me know. > > > > Regards, > > Simon > > *______________________* > > *Simon Youens* > > Senior Geophysicist > > Talisman Vietnam Limited > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > GF mailing list > GF at stevens.com > http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf -- Dave Stevens www.stevens.com dave at stevens.com STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA From Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com Mon Jul 6 10:49:22 2009 From: Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com (Bilyeu, Cindy) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:49:22 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com> Message-ID: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> The reason might be because Schlumberger supplies their own Knowledge data base and Discussion forums for all their products. All you need to do is apply for a login and password. The discussion forum is very nice. Anyone who signs up for the discussion forms gets an e-mail. You can get replies to a problem from around the world for Schlumberger people and outside companies. https://support.slb.com There are also case studies, white papers and newsletters available. One stop shopping! Kind Regards, Cindy -----Original Message----- From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of J. D. Stevens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:31 AM To: Youens, Simon Cc: gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Simon, Indeed there has been almost no activity on gf at stevens.com. The culture seems to be very different. Perhaps your participation may spark a bit of activity. Dave Youens, Simon wrote: > I've just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty members, > but I can see only one post! > > > > Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list is > very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it > is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to > questions. > > > > So here's a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. I've > just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order > to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom > 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If > anyone would like a copy, let me know. > > > > Regards, > > Simon > > *______________________* > > *Simon Youens* > > Senior Geophysicist > > Talisman Vietnam Limited > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > GF mailing list > GF at stevens.com > http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf -- Dave Stevens www.stevens.com dave at stevens.com STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA _______________________________________________ GF mailing list GF at stevens.com http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of all or any portion of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. From dave at stevens.com Mon Jul 6 11:27:32 2009 From: dave at stevens.com (J. D. Stevens) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:27:32 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com> <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> Message-ID: <4A5225F4.2030702@stevens.com> Cindy, Thanks for the reminder regarding the Schlumberger knowledge base. I have not used it for years. I think I quit using it because it did not address my needs. My recollection is that the content seemed limited, stale, and completely controlled by Schlumberger. I just checked and found that I do indeed have a valid account for the SIS Support Portal. I hope gf at stevens.com might be a complement to the SIS Support Portal. It can provide a forum for exchanges that might be more candid and current than what might be found on the Support Portal. Indeed your post to gf at stevens.com has been valuable to me in reminding me of the SIS Support Portal. Dave Bilyeu, Cindy wrote: > The reason might be because Schlumberger supplies their own Knowledge > data base and Discussion forums for all their products. All you need to > do is apply for a login and password. > > The discussion forum is very nice. Anyone who signs up for the > discussion forms gets an e-mail. You can get replies to a problem from > around the world for Schlumberger people and outside companies. > > https://support.slb.com > > There are also case studies, white papers and newsletters available. > > One stop shopping! > > Kind Regards, > Cindy > > -----Original Message----- > From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf > Of J. D. Stevens > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:31 AM > To: Youens, Simon > Cc: gf at stevens.com > Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? > > Simon, > > Indeed there has been almost no activity on gf at stevens.com. The culture > seems to be very different. > > Perhaps your participation may spark a bit of activity. > > Dave > > Youens, Simon wrote: >> I've just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty > members, >> but I can see only one post! >> >> >> >> Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list > is >> very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it > >> is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to >> questions. >> >> >> >> So here's a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. > I've >> just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order > >> to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom >> 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If >> anyone would like a copy, let me know. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Simon >> >> *______________________* >> >> *Simon Youens* >> >> Senior Geophysicist >> >> Talisman Vietnam Limited >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> GF mailing list >> GF at stevens.com >> http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf > -- Dave Stevens Dave at Stevens.COM STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA http://www.stevens.com From Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com Mon Jul 6 11:40:07 2009 From: Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com (Bilyeu, Cindy) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:40:07 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <4A5225F4.2030702@stevens.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com><59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> <4A5225F4.2030702@stevens.com> Message-ID: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC33@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> The discussion area is not controlled by SLB, just the Knowledge Base is controlled by them. Anyone can post questions, ideas, thoughts. The Knowledge Base does have good content. I've found many things I've been looking for. ~Cindy -----Original Message----- From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of J. D. Stevens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:28 AM To: gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Cindy, Thanks for the reminder regarding the Schlumberger knowledge base. I have not used it for years. I think I quit using it because it did not address my needs. My recollection is that the content seemed limited, stale, and completely controlled by Schlumberger. I just checked and found that I do indeed have a valid account for the SIS Support Portal. I hope gf at stevens.com might be a complement to the SIS Support Portal. It can provide a forum for exchanges that might be more candid and current than what might be found on the Support Portal. Indeed your post to gf at stevens.com has been valuable to me in reminding me of the SIS Support Portal. Dave Bilyeu, Cindy wrote: > The reason might be because Schlumberger supplies their own Knowledge > data base and Discussion forums for all their products. All you need to > do is apply for a login and password. > > The discussion forum is very nice. Anyone who signs up for the > discussion forms gets an e-mail. You can get replies to a problem from > around the world for Schlumberger people and outside companies. > > https://support.slb.com > > There are also case studies, white papers and newsletters available. > > One stop shopping! > > Kind Regards, > Cindy > > -----Original Message----- > From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf > Of J. D. Stevens > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:31 AM > To: Youens, Simon > Cc: gf at stevens.com > Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? > > Simon, > > Indeed there has been almost no activity on gf at stevens.com. The culture > seems to be very different. > > Perhaps your participation may spark a bit of activity. > > Dave > > Youens, Simon wrote: >> I've just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty > members, >> but I can see only one post! >> >> >> >> Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list > is >> very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it > >> is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to >> questions. >> >> >> >> So here's a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. > I've >> just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order > >> to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom >> 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If >> anyone would like a copy, let me know. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Simon >> >> *______________________* >> >> *Simon Youens* >> >> Senior Geophysicist >> >> Talisman Vietnam Limited >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> GF mailing list >> GF at stevens.com >> http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf > -- Dave Stevens Dave at Stevens.COM STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA http://www.stevens.com _______________________________________________ GF mailing list GF at stevens.com http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of all or any portion of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. From woollard at geocom.com.au Mon Jul 6 21:18:29 2009 From: woollard at geocom.com.au (Keith Woollard) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:18:29 +0800 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC33@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com><59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> <4A5225F4.2030702@stevens.com> <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC33@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> Message-ID: <4A52B075.8020907@geocom.com.au> The problem with a forum like the SIS one is that you have to go looking, and you only do that when you have a problem. Then when you are there, you might have a poke around and see what else you notice. Just had a bit of a look and often there is no response to questions for several days. The stevens list is great because it just appears in your inbox, it takes 10 seconds to know whether you need to read further and possibly respond. Rarely do I spend more than 5 minutes a day, and I often receive valuable information. I certainly agree with Dave - there is a cultural difference between the two groups of users Keith Bilyeu, Cindy wrote: The discussion area is not controlled by SLB, just the Knowledge Base is controlled by them. Anyone can post questions, ideas, thoughts. The Knowledge Base does have good content. I've found many things I've been looking for. ~Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [1]gf-bounces at stevens.com [[2]mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of J. D. Stevens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:28 AM To: [3]gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Cindy, Thanks for the reminder regarding the Schlumberger knowledge base. I have not used it for years. I think I quit using it because it did not address my needs. My recollection is that the content seemed limited, stale, and completely controlled by Schlumberger. I just checked and found that I do indeed have a valid account for the SIS Support Portal. I hope [4]gf at stevens.com might be a complement to the SIS Support Portal. It can provide a forum for exchanges that might be more candid and current than what might be found on the Support Portal. Indeed your post to [5]gf at stevens.com has been valuable to me in reminding me of the SIS Support Portal. Dave Bilyeu, Cindy wrote: The reason might be because Schlumberger supplies their own Knowledge data base and Discussion forums for all their products. All you need to do is apply for a login and password. The discussion forum is very nice. Anyone who signs up for the discussion forms gets an e-mail. You can get replies to a problem from around the world for Schlumberger people and outside companies. [6]https://support.slb.com There are also case studies, white papers and newsletters available. One stop shopping! Kind Regards, Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [7]gf-bounces at stevens.com [[8]mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of J. D. Stevens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:31 AM To: Youens, Simon Cc: [9]gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Simon, Indeed there has been almost no activity on [10]gf at stevens.com. The culture seems to be very different. Perhaps your participation may spark a bit of activity. Dave Youens, Simon wrote: I've just looked at the archive and seen that there are thirty members, but I can see only one post! Is this list of no interest to Geoframe users? The Kingdom 3DPAK list is very active, with nearly 1000 members and has reached a point where it is often a preferred resource in terms of getting quick answers to questions. So here's a contribution from me, before I start asking questions. I've just imported my favourite Kingdom colour bars into Geoframe. In order to do so, I created an Excel spreadsheet, which converts the Kingdom 0-255 RGB colour bar values to the 0-1.0 values used by Geoframe. If anyone would like a copy, let me know. Regards, Simon *______________________* *Simon Youens* Senior Geophysicist Talisman Vietnam Limited ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ GF mailing list [11]GF at stevens.com [12]http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf -- Keith Woollard Senior Consultant GeoCom Services Australia Pty Ltd (A.B.N. 63 068 362 498) Ph 61 (08)9243 3544 fx 61 (0)8 9246 9410 Email [13]woollard at geocom.com.au Web [14]www.geocom.com.au References 1. mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com 2. mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com 3. mailto:gf at stevens.com 4. mailto:gf at stevens.com 5. mailto:gf at stevens.com 6. https://support.slb.com/ 7. mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com 8. mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com 9. mailto:gf at stevens.com 10. mailto:gf at stevens.com 11. mailto:GF at stevens.com 12. http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf 13. mailto:woollard at geocom.com.au 14. http://www.geocom.com.au/ From syouens at talisman-energy.com Tue Jul 7 19:40:07 2009 From: syouens at talisman-energy.com (Youens, Simon) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:40:07 +0700 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC33@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> References: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3536@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> <4A5218C3.2070006@Stevens.com><59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC1B@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com><4A5225F4.2030702@stevens.com> <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CC33@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> Message-ID: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C3738@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> Cindy, Thanks for the recommendation. I've signed up and I'll have a look. I agree with Keith's comments that one of the really nice things about the Kingdom forum is that you get emails of all posts, either individually or in a daily digest. Also,I don't agree with your comment - "The discussion area is not controlled by SLB". They make it very clear that they do control the forum - "Forums are monitored for abuse, improper language or derogatory comments. Misuse of forums may result in access being revoked." In the Kingdom forum, derogatory comments are posted frequently which are often the spur to SMT to fix something. Regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of Bilyeu, Cindy Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:40 PM To: J. D. Stevens; gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? The discussion area is not controlled by SLB, just the Knowledge Base is controlled by them. Anyone can post questions, ideas, thoughts. The Knowledge Base does have good content. I've found many things I've been looking for. ~Cindy From MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com Tue Jul 7 23:07:15 2009 From: MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com (MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:07:15 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? Message-ID: I believe that the "derogatory comments" monitoring is meant as you can't insult another user or be "rude", not complaints against the software stated in a professional manor. If you ever attended a geoframe data managers users group meeting, you would have heard plenty of comments that spur the software to be fixed. I am certain I would not like to be called some comment for disagreeing with what someone said. "Blithering idiot" I could ignore, however, some people can get really hostile and sometimes lash out with inappropriate statements. I think something like "geoframe sux (insert proffesionaly stated reason)" would not be cut, but "geoframe is (insert explative)" would and should be cut. Just my two cents. Monika ----- Original Message ----- From: "Youens, Simon" [syouens at talisman-energy.com] Sent: 07/08/2009 07:40 AM ZE7 To: "Bilyeu, Cindy" ; "J. D. Stevens" ; Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Cindy, Thanks for the recommendation. I've signed up and I'll have a look. I agree with Keith's comments that one of the really nice things about the Kingdom forum is that you get emails of all posts, either individually or in a daily digest. Also,I don't agree with your comment - "The discussion area is not controlled by SLB". They make it very clear that they do control the forum - "Forums are monitored for abuse, improper language or derogatory comments. Misuse of forums may result in access being revoked." In the Kingdom forum, derogatory comments are posted frequently which are often the spur to SMT to fix something. Regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of Bilyeu, Cindy Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:40 PM To: J. D. Stevens; gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? The discussion area is not controlled by SLB, just the Knowledge Base is controlled by them. Anyone can post questions, ideas, thoughts. The Knowledge Base does have good content. I've found many things I've been looking for. ~Cindy _______________________________________________ GF mailing list GF at stevens.com http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf From Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com Wed Jul 8 08:35:29 2009 From: Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com (Bilyeu, Cindy) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:35:29 -0500 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CDD0@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> I agree with Monika. They are big boys and girls and can take comments about the software not working correctly. They have as you noted proven that at the GeoFrame Data Management User Group meetings in the past. They have gotten and ear full and worked with the user communities to resolve the issues. It's kind of hard to blow that many people off when they are all complaining. If you want to call them an expletive then I'm guessing that one would not be allowed and I would hope the same would be true of Dave Stevens site. It's just not professional. The SLB discussion form does send e-mails out when you sign up to be notified of products you want to monitor. As has been pointed out in some cases it can take a little time. If I'm in a hurry to get an answer I pick up the phone and call them directly. That's why we pay maintenance. If I'm looking for some input from other clients around the world then I can wait a couple of days. Cindy -----Original Message----- From: MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com [mailto:MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:07 PM To: Youens, Simon; Bilyeu, Cindy; Dave Stevens; gf Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? I believe that the "derogatory comments" monitoring is meant as you can't insult another user or be "rude", not complaints against the software stated in a professional manor. If you ever attended a geoframe data managers users group meeting, you would have heard plenty of comments that spur the software to be fixed. I am certain I would not like to be called some comment for disagreeing with what someone said. "Blithering idiot" I could ignore, however, some people can get really hostile and sometimes lash out with inappropriate statements. I think something like "geoframe sux (insert proffesionaly stated reason)" would not be cut, but "geoframe is (insert explative)" would and should be cut. Just my two cents. Monika ----- Original Message ----- From: "Youens, Simon" [syouens at talisman-energy.com] Sent: 07/08/2009 07:40 AM ZE7 To: "Bilyeu, Cindy" ; "J. D. Stevens" ; Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? Cindy, Thanks for the recommendation. I've signed up and I'll have a look. I agree with Keith's comments that one of the really nice things about the Kingdom forum is that you get emails of all posts, either individually or in a daily digest. Also,I don't agree with your comment - "The discussion area is not controlled by SLB". They make it very clear that they do control the forum - "Forums are monitored for abuse, improper language or derogatory comments. Misuse of forums may result in access being revoked." In the Kingdom forum, derogatory comments are posted frequently which are often the spur to SMT to fix something. Regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf Of Bilyeu, Cindy Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:40 PM To: J. D. Stevens; gf at stevens.com Subject: Re: [GF] Only one post since April? The discussion area is not controlled by SLB, just the Knowledge Base is controlled by them. Anyone can post questions, ideas, thoughts. The Knowledge Base does have good content. I've found many things I've been looking for. ~Cindy _______________________________________________ GF mailing list GF at stevens.com http://lists.stevens.com/mailman/listinfo/gf Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of all or any portion of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. From dave at stevens.com Thu Jul 9 15:09:14 2009 From: dave at stevens.com (J. D. Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:09:14 -0500 Subject: [GF] jumbo packets and GeoFrame Message-ID: <4A564E6A.5000602@stevens.com> Be aware of possible issues with GeoFrame on a machine with jumbo frames enabled. On a Sun V480 running Solaris 10, I added the following file in order to allow enhanced performance on a database and application server: /platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/ce.conf The contents of the file are: interrupts=1 accept-jumbo=1; After a reboot the mtu for ce interfaces changed from 1500 to 9194. I took this action on four Solaris servers, each with several ce interfaces. Based on some other experiments, I think our switch doesn't handle jumbo frames just yet. I have not yet consulted with the network switch administrator. I chose to enable jumbo frames in case the opportunity to use them came available. All seemed fine until some SIS folk were configuring ProSource products on the V480. The gf_users command would just hang rather than listing database users. sqlplus would NOT work in a GeoFrame environment. sqlplus would work fine using Oracle binaries in a regular xterm. It would fail in a GeoFrame xterm. I "manually" set the mtu for the primary interface to 1500, and the GeoFrame sqlplus client software started working. Watch out for the subtle "gotchas" that can show up when you make modifications I don't understand why GeoFrame cares about frame size. I would expect the communication layer to be isolated from the application, but there seemed to be an issue in this case. -- Dave Stevens Dave at Stevens.COM STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA http://www.stevens.com From Dave at Stevens.com Thu Jul 16 12:01:54 2009 From: Dave at Stevens.com (J. D. Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:54 -0500 Subject: [GF] file size limit for ProMan backup Message-ID: <4A5F5D02.2050701@Stevens.com> Is there a way to limit file size and break *.gfa into multiple files in GF4.4? We want to limit file sizes because of file transport issues. -- Dave Stevens www.stevens.com dave at stevens.com STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA From Dave at Stevens.com Thu Jul 16 12:28:44 2009 From: Dave at Stevens.com (J. D. Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:28:44 -0500 Subject: [GF] file size limit for ProMan backup In-Reply-To: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149D35C@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> References: <4A5F5D02.2050701@Stevens.com> <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149D35C@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> Message-ID: <4A5F634C.7070502@Stevens.com> Thanks for the reply. Monika pointed us to the "Help" button on the ProMan screen. That seemed to provide a good answer, but we did not know if the 2GB limit was in effect. Did you try a larger chunk size? I found that the user had already generated the 850GB gfa file. If we need to break it up, we will use split/cat from the the command line to break and reform the file. Dave Bilyeu, Cindy wrote: > Yep, but the largest size to make the individual files is 2GB...I had a > 1TB project so that was a tone of files. > You will create a *.gfca (tells it how to break the individual files) in > your home directory. When it's done it will write out a *.gfcr files. > Make sure who ever is getting this data knows how you split the files. > They will restore the project with the *.gfcr file so make sure it's on > the tapes(s). > > Go to the SLB Knowledge Base and search for ProMan Backup split or look > in the online doc's. It's in both locations. > > ~Cindy > > -----Original Message----- > From: gf-bounces at stevens.com [mailto:gf-bounces at stevens.com] On Behalf > Of J. D. Stevens > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:02 PM > To: gf at stevens.com > Subject: [GF] file size limit for ProMan backup > > Is there a way to limit file size and break *.gfa into multiple files in > > GF4.4? We want to limit file sizes because of file transport issues. -- Dave Stevens www.stevens.com dave at stevens.com STEVENS.COM, Inc. 713-419-0313 Bellville, TX, USA From syouens at talisman-energy.com Thu Jul 23 20:43:19 2009 From: syouens at talisman-energy.com (Youens, Simon) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:43:19 +0700 Subject: [GF] Only one post since April? In-Reply-To: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CDD0@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> References: <59773D77008AAC4898702F8231411DBF0149CDD0@HOUMSPCNMX02.corp.dvn.com> Message-ID: <1A63386B4F899F47BFA77D53BB4F45F52C417A@HCMEXCH01.asia.tlm.com> Cindy and Monika, I certainly didn't mean to imply that I was planning to fill the forum with expletives. I just thought the usage rules were very draconian - the kind of thing that might have been written in Redmond or Cupertino. I've logged into the forum a few times and to be polite, it's moribund. Twenty threads on the first page, with the most recent post on June 9 and the oldest on November 6 and a mode of one reply per post. Clearly not a place to expect an answer to a pressing question. I agree with you about calling the SLB Help Desk and I am already doing that, but the beauty of an active forum like the one that Dave hosts for Kingdom users, is that you can fire off a quick email and often receive several answers from other users in less than a day, because it's a "push" technology. No need to login. An added bonus of the forum emails is that I often learn something new about the software, by reading answers to other users' queries. Sending an email in a minute about a non-urgent question is often much more productive then spending ten to 15 minutes or more on the phone to the help desk or searching the SLB knowledge base. I'm going to test the tolerance of the SLB forum administrator by promoting Dave's GF forum. We'll see what happens. I'm also going to post some questions on both sites and I'm planning to encourage all GF users that I know to sign up Dave's forum. I suggest that you sign up temporarily for the Kingdom forum and just see what I am talking about. Regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: Bilyeu, Cindy [mailto:Cindy.Bilyeu at dvn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:35 PM To: MSewell at nobleenergyinc.com; Youens, Simon; Dave Stevens; gf Subject: RE: [GF] Only one post since April? I agree with Monika. They are big boys and girls and can take comments about the software not working correctly. They have as you noted proven that at the GeoFrame Data Management User Group meetings in the past. They have gotten and ear full and worked with the user communities to resolve the issues. It's kind of hard to blow that many people off when they are all complaining. If you want to call them an expletive then I'm guessing that one would not be allowed and I would hope the same would be true of Dave Stevens site. It's just not professional. The SLB discussion form does send e-mails out when you sign up to be notified of products you want to monitor. As has been pointed out in some cases it can take a little time. If I'm in a hurry to get an answer I pick up the phone and call them directly. That's why we pay maintenance. If I'm looking for some input from other clients around the world then I can wait a couple of days. Cindy